both, been long since mid last year
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my daily motivational reading, what the high and mighty penny pumpers say about luv:
"any knowledge you currently have about trading, finance, accounting, etc... that i don't, are things i can fully absorb within a relatively short period of time if its really important to do so... on the other hand, i am quite certain that you are incapable of grasping even 20% of the knowledge i've gained in math, associated algorithmic coding, physical chemistry, solid-state physics, materials science and engineering over decades of study."
"There are those who market trades, and there are those who trade markets.
There are those who follow marketers, and those who follow markets.
The marketers feast on their followers; the traders feast on the markets." -luvb2b
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